This is a very simple project to build yourself and it will be a module you will use a lot in your synthesizer. I built two of them so far and they are in constant use. You can use this mixer for both Control Voltages (CV) and audio signals. I wanted to have a mixer in my synth but also a passive attenuator that I could use for signals that have no level control. So I decided to put both functions into one panel. I later added a clipping indicator and a potmeter to add more Gain to the output signal. More about that at the bottom of this article.
Passive attenuator is nothing more than a fancy word for a volume knob. It's just a potmeter inbetween the in- and output of the signal. It's called 'passive' because it doesn't require any power source. But by flipping the switch from passive to mix, the signal is now also being led into the mixer and becomes part of the signal coming out of the 'Mix' output while still being available at the original output too. This can also be useful for side-chaining for instance if you lead the original signal into the Envelope Follower and then use that to trigger the Lopass Gate. Just a thought :)
I used the super simple mixer circuit that Sam from LookMumNoComputer also uses and I added switches for the signal to be added to the mixer.
LAYOUTS:
(Last revised: 05-Feb.-2020)
Stripboard only:
LAYOUTS:
Here's the stripboard layout that I made of the complete Mixer/Attenuator. All potmeters viewed from the front. You can easily add a passive output to the first channel too, like with the other three channels, by adding a switch and extra socket, but I didn't do that to save space on my panel. The switches also function as Mute switches for the mixer. A very versatile and useful circuit.
(There's a layout of the mixer with the clipping indicator, further down the article):
Stripboard only:
Here's the schematic for this module:
You can use other dual opamp chips for the mixer. It doesn't have to be TL072. As long as the pinout is the same (which it almost always is) and make sure they are not fakes, otherwise it won't mix the audio correctly.
Like it says in the schematic, it doesn't really matter what value potmeters you use as attenuators but it's probably advisable not to go above 1M Ohm and not below 47K. In the panel wiring diagram, on the drawing, you can see how I combined the mixer with the passive attenuator function by simply adding switches that lead the output signal coming from the wiper of the potentiometer into the mixer. Only the top output jack carries the mixed signal out, and the other three always carry an attenuated version of their respective input signal. That line is never interrupted. Those other three outputs are all for passive attenuation. So you could get a mixed signal out of the top output jack, and 1 to 3 original signals on the other outputs. You can also split a signal into two parts by putting it on, for instance, input 2 and sending it into the mixer. Then you can tap the signal from the mixer output and from the output of channel 2. (Of course no other signal must go into the mixer otherwise the signal at the mix output will contain the mix of the multiple inputs but you can use the other passive attenuators at the same time.)
A very good idea was posted in the comments below and that is to use the socket switches of the attenuator outputs instead of using toggle switches. If no cable is attached to the output the signal will go into the mixer and if you attach a cable the signal to the mixer will be cut and you just have attenuation. The downside of this approach is of course that it is not possible to split the signal in two by having it go into the mixer and still be available at one of the other outputs but it will save space on your panel not having to include toggle switches. It's up to you as to how you want to use this mixer.
So a very versatile mixer design! The mixer takes + and - 12 Volt but will work just as well on +/- 15 Volt.
Because it's a tiny little circuitboard and weighs next to nothing, I glued the circuit board straight to the back of two of the potmeters in the panel with hot glue. Works great! :)
You can add as many channels to this mixer as you like by simply adding more potmeters with input jacks and 100K resistors to the input of the opamp. You can even add an inverted output by tapping off the signal from pin 1 of the chip (I've marked the place in the schematic on the drawing and the layout) with a 1K resistor going to an output jack. I didn't include that in my build because inversion doesn't do much for audio signals and my LFO already has an inversion option so there's really no need for it. There is also the possibility of adding a 'Gain Control' potmeter by replacing the 100K resistor over pins 1 and 2 for a 500K potmeter in series with a 50K resistor. It is drawn in the schematic in dotted lines. This will give a gain of x 0.5 to x 5.5
The inputs of the 4 channels can never be shorted out because they are connected to pin 3 of the potmeters so the input impedance stays the same as the value of the potmeters you used. If one or more of the potmeters switched to the mixer is turned to zero, there still is a 100K resistor in series with the wiper(s) so there's never a short circuit possible. You won't even hear the slightest drop in volume, this is a very simple but very good working mixer. Like I mentioned earlier, I've built two of them so far and they are used all the time!
You can add as many channels to this mixer as you like by simply adding more potmeters with input jacks and 100K resistors to the input of the opamp. You can even add an inverted output by tapping off the signal from pin 1 of the chip (I've marked the place in the schematic on the drawing and the layout) with a 1K resistor going to an output jack. I didn't include that in my build because inversion doesn't do much for audio signals and my LFO already has an inversion option so there's really no need for it. There is also the possibility of adding a 'Gain Control' potmeter by replacing the 100K resistor over pins 1 and 2 for a 500K potmeter in series with a 50K resistor. It is drawn in the schematic in dotted lines. This will give a gain of x 0.5 to x 5.5
The inputs of the 4 channels can never be shorted out because they are connected to pin 3 of the potmeters so the input impedance stays the same as the value of the potmeters you used. If one or more of the potmeters switched to the mixer is turned to zero, there still is a 100K resistor in series with the wiper(s) so there's never a short circuit possible. You won't even hear the slightest drop in volume, this is a very simple but very good working mixer. Like I mentioned earlier, I've built two of them so far and they are used all the time!
Sam Battle of LookMumNoComputer fame has a similar setup with the switches choosing between 'Mix' and 'Individual Output' on his quad VCA module, which you can see in this video (5m33 into the video). I noticed this only recently when I watched the linked video and when he talked about the VCAs it reminded me of this mixer.
Here's a picture of the finished panel with the blue clipping indicator LED.
THE AUDIO CLIPPING INDICATOR ADDITION:
When I first made this mixer, the blue LED was just there so I knew the mixer had power but it served no real function other than that it looked cool. (I had actually drilled the 3mm hole by accident so I put a LED in it to fill it up.) But later I decided to give it a useful function and to use that LED as a clipping indicator. So I started looking for schematics of clipping detectors and I found some low resolution circuit images. I used one of those to draw my own schematic in a better readable higher resolution:
Here is a Falstad simulation of the clipping circuit: --- CLICK HERE ---
I made this stripboard layout for it which is verified, I used this for my build:
I had already built the mixer previously so I built the clipping indicator on a separate piece of stripboard and glued it to the mixer print with hot-glue, using a spacer in between so the prints wouldn't touch each others copper strips. Since then I have made a new layout combining the mixer with the indicator which is of course much more convenient. The layout below is verified, I recently built a 2nd mixer using this layout and it works fine.
You might wonder why the input signal is connected to the negative (inverting) input of the opamp. Why not just on the positive (non-inverting) input and do away with the second opamp? Well that's because the opamp's summing function only works on the negative (inverting) input. The way it's shown in the schematic is the right (and only) way to do it.
You can also ad a 'Mute' function by simply putting an extra single pole double throw switch into the mixer output. Some people find that a handy function to have but it's not included in this project.
Here's a picture of the finished panel with the blue clipping indicator LED.
THE AUDIO CLIPPING INDICATOR ADDITION:
When I first made this mixer, the blue LED was just there so I knew the mixer had power but it served no real function other than that it looked cool. (I had actually drilled the 3mm hole by accident so I put a LED in it to fill it up.) But later I decided to give it a useful function and to use that LED as a clipping indicator. So I started looking for schematics of clipping detectors and I found some low resolution circuit images. I used one of those to draw my own schematic in a better readable higher resolution:
I made this stripboard layout for it which is verified, I used this for my build:
I had already built the mixer previously so I built the clipping indicator on a separate piece of stripboard and glued it to the mixer print with hot-glue, using a spacer in between so the prints wouldn't touch each others copper strips. Since then I have made a new layout combining the mixer with the indicator which is of course much more convenient. The layout below is verified, I recently built a 2nd mixer using this layout and it works fine.
You can use a variety of (dual) opamp chips for this circuit. The TL072, TL082, NE5532 or even a 4558 or an LM358 will work for both the clipping indicator and the mixer. It doesn't matter which you use where, they all work fine. As long as the dual opamps are suitable for audio circuits and are pin for pin compatible with the TL072 (see datasheets) and make sure they are not fakes from AliExpress or other dubious sources. Note the opamp in the clipping indicator circuit has it's minus pole (pin 4) connected to ground. It only needs a positive voltage source not a dual one.
Btw, you can use other value potmeters for the attenuator/mixing pots. I used 1M but 100K or 50K will work too. I'd recommend not to go lower than 47K though.
All potmeters are viewed from the front with shaft facing you.
LAYOUT FOR 4 CHANNEL MIXER w. CLIPPING INDICATOR:
Stripboard only:
ADDING A GAIN POTMETER:
(Last revised: 27-April-2020: Corrected mistake with 10K resistor to pin 6 of IC2, it was connected to ground when it should be connected to V+. 30-March-2021: Cosmetic changes to make layout clearer.)
ADDING A GAIN POTMETER:
Here's the layout for if you want to add a 'Gain' potmeter. With a 500K potmeter the gain will be between 0.5 and 5.5 times and with a 1M pot it'll be between 0.5 and 10.5 times. 500K is really enough because with gain set to above 3 times the audio will start to clip anyway but it's up to you.
Note the 100K resistor over pins 1 and 2 of the mixer IC (to the left) is now changed for a 47K in series with the Gain potmeter. The 47K resistor is there to make sure the feedback resistance can't go all the way down to zero. I've highlighted the potmeter connection in the square on the layout. The rest is the same as the previous layout (although this is a somewhat older version but it's all correct.)
Calibrating the clipping circuit:
This clipping circuit works on anything from 9 to 15 Volt. It happily takes 10V peak-to-peak audio input signals (if powered from 12-15V). You can set the sensitivity, or the clipping threshold, with the 5K trimmer potmeter. I just fed it the normal signals from the two VCO's on channels 1 and 2 and slightly mistuned one VCO so you get that frequency beating effect where the two signals amplify eachother when they are in phase and subtract when they are in opposite phase. With the mixer-level pots turned to maximum I set the trimmer in such a way that the LED would just come on when the combined signals from the two VCO's would be at their highest amplitude. That way any signal louder than the VCO's will trigger the clipping light and you also get a visual indication of the 'frequency beating effect' because the LED will blink in time with this effect. So at the level I set it, the audio isn't actually clipping yet but the volume is louder than the normal 10Vpp. You can of course choose any threshold level you like and calibrate the circuit with whatever method you wish.
Here's the mixer panel with the newly designated clipping LED:
Here you can see the two stripboards behind the Mixer panel. You can also see how I glued the two together with a plastic spacer inbetween to prevent them touching. It looks a bit messy with that big blob of glue but that doesn't matter to me. It needs to work and work it does! And it saved me from having to rebuild the whole mixer. (I might do that anyway though on a later date, using the layout above.)
If you decide to build this mixer you should of course use the layout with the clipping indicator included. It's still small enough to hot-glue it straight to the back of two or three potmeters in the panel, so no need for screws or brackets. I'm really happy that I was able to include this little visual aid to this mixer. Makes it just that little more appealing and useful.
This clipping circuit works on anything from 9 to 15 Volt. It happily takes 10V peak-to-peak audio input signals (if powered from 12-15V). You can set the sensitivity, or the clipping threshold, with the 5K trimmer potmeter. I just fed it the normal signals from the two VCO's on channels 1 and 2 and slightly mistuned one VCO so you get that frequency beating effect where the two signals amplify eachother when they are in phase and subtract when they are in opposite phase. With the mixer-level pots turned to maximum I set the trimmer in such a way that the LED would just come on when the combined signals from the two VCO's would be at their highest amplitude. That way any signal louder than the VCO's will trigger the clipping light and you also get a visual indication of the 'frequency beating effect' because the LED will blink in time with this effect. So at the level I set it, the audio isn't actually clipping yet but the volume is louder than the normal 10Vpp. You can of course choose any threshold level you like and calibrate the circuit with whatever method you wish.
Here's the mixer panel with the newly designated clipping LED:
Here you can see the two stripboards behind the Mixer panel. You can also see how I glued the two together with a plastic spacer inbetween to prevent them touching. It looks a bit messy with that big blob of glue but that doesn't matter to me. It needs to work and work it does! And it saved me from having to rebuild the whole mixer. (I might do that anyway though on a later date, using the layout above.)
If you decide to build this mixer you should of course use the layout with the clipping indicator included. It's still small enough to hot-glue it straight to the back of two or three potmeters in the panel, so no need for screws or brackets. I'm really happy that I was able to include this little visual aid to this mixer. Makes it just that little more appealing and useful.
If you want to add some grit to this mixer in the form of variable distortion, then you can. It's a matter of adding two diodes and a potmeter. This video by Moritz Klein explains how you can do that and how it works.
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This is awesome! Love your DIY Synth design :D
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing your Stripboard layouts <3
Wish everyone did this!
Thank you! I'm glad you're finding it useful. :)
DeleteHey Eddy, built this one on Carton to be on the safe side, but alas! it worked perfectly :)
ReplyDeleteI also have a lot of Bassguitar related gear, and was thinking about making the "in" jacks 6,3mm and the "out" parts 3.5mm, kind of like a interface box between bass and eurorack. Anything special i should look out for ?
Greets from Vienna, Ben
Hi Ben, I'm glad it worked like it should =) It's a simple design so not much that can go wrong. You can easily replace the 3,5mm inputs for 6,3mm ones. The signal out from a bass guitar, if unamplified, is much lower than the output from synthesizer modules so the clipping indicator will be of little use I think but other than that it should work perfectly fine.
DeleteNow having some more experience in building these synthesizers, I think you need logaritmic pots for auto and lineair for voltage control. It works using lineair for audio, but the controllable range is better with logaritmic.
ReplyDeleteThat is true but I always found the difference negligible but it's up to the builder.
DeleteHey Eddy, how relevant is the value of the 500K Pot for gain? Can I use, for instance, a 100K Poti and change the 50K Resistor that is in series? And, if possible, how would I have to change the resistor?
ReplyDeleteThe value of the potmeter determins the amount of gain you get. This is the formula with Rf being the resistance of the potmeter (500K) and R1 the resistance of the input resistor(s) (100K) Gain=-Rf/R1 So if you reduce the value of the potmeter to 100K then only the 50K would give a little bit of gain: -150/100=-1.5 times gain (them minus just means the signal is inverted. So it needs to be 500K to get 5.5 times gain or 1M for 10.5 times gain. Reducing the input resistors is not a good idea. You need high input impedance in a mixer.
Deleteokay, i see. thanks for the lesson. ... my diy-synth is growing and so is my elektronic knowledge. thank you for sharing your awesome work!!
DeleteThat's good to hear. It's always so satisfying to see a modular synthesizer grow in size and all by your own work. In the end you'll have a system that'll sound awesome!! ^___^ Good luck and if you come across any more problems feel free to ask questions either here or on the Facebook group.
Deletehi wondering if the BC547 is lined up along row 43 or if the middle pin goes out to the next strip? thanks
ReplyDeleteNo they're all in line. Makes no difference anyway.
DeleteHi Eddy, I'm preparing to build a mixer now (I've had one on a temporary one on a breadboard for long enough now!!) I love your design, especially integrating the attenuator and switching functionality. I was considering using the switching built into my 3.5mm jack sockets instead of toggle switches. So if I have a cable plugged in it will bypass and not get mixed (just attenuated) and if it doesn't have a cable plugged in the input gets mixed. Can you think of any downsides to this approach? Will make for a simpler panel anyway!
ReplyDeleteAh yes, that's a good idea actually. You can use the socket switches of the output sockets for that. Good thinking. I will add this idea to the article ^___^
DeleteOf course if you do it like that it won't be possible to split the signal in two and have it go into the mixer and still be available at the other outputs. With your idea it's either one or the other. But I just added the idea to the article because I thought it was worth mentioning.
DeleteThanks Eddy, my experience in modular synth isn't great enough to know if I'm likely to regret this compromise or not. At the moment it seems like a reasonable compromise to use the jack socket switches. It's one of those features you can include and then find you never use... or you don't include it, but don't realise you're missing it, or... :)
DeleteI think I'll try without the switches. Then maybe I can build another version that includes them at a later date when I need another mixer.
Thank you again for all your work on this website. It's by far my favourite resource!
Thanks for your kind words James. I appreciate it. I don't think it's a big deal to be able to split the signal. You can use a passive multiple for that too or stacked cables. Just build it the way you want to. You won't miss the extra option (I never actually used it myself).
DeletePS - to anyone building this... if you find some 2M2 Ohm Log pots lying around and think they'll do - they won't! The usable range is rubbish. Wasted a load of time and have changed out to some 47K Ohm log pots instead. I really didn't think it would matter so much. I nearly always use 100K pots for everything, but I was given a bunch of pots by a friend and thought I should try to use them. Next time I'll test in advance!
ReplyDeleteHmmm weird. They just function as voltage dividers so any value should do usually. Maybe 2M2 is too much resistance and not enough current flows to make it work properly. Thanks for the warning!
DeleteNo, it's Log pots that suck. I'm sticking with linear pots from now on; far better volume control (contrary to the theory)...!
DeleteI think I read somewhere on your blog about you having a similar opinion about log pots... I wish I'd paid more attention to that now. But it's a good lesson to find out for yourself.
DeleteSo I think a 2M2 Ohm LIN would be fine, it's just the LOG pots that I'm not happy with.
Aaah okay. Log pots are supposed to be better for audio, i.e. a more natural volume curve but I always preferred linear ones too. At least you know it works ^___^
DeleteFinished it and it's great! It's been on my list to experiment with LOG pots as I understand the theory and so I was very surprised when it didn't work out well at all. There is plenty of 'resolution' to adjust the high volumes, but at low volumes it goes from medium to silent so quickly. With the LIN pots it just works perfectly.
DeleteI've made a stupid wiring mistake - one I've always been able to avoid up until now; I've muddled up the input jacks with the output jacks. Such an easy mistake when you're looking at the back of the panel and so I usually write on the back to remind myself.
This module, as simple as it is has had a myriad of mistakes made by me. I blame the head cold I've got - I'm not thinking straight.
So great to have this as a proper module and not some pots with bad connections on a breadboard. The addition of the gain circuit is really good too and will add a lot of flexibility to the mix. Thanks again Eddy!
I'm so glad you got it working James! And thanks again for your support! And it's good to know the gain feature works so well. I hadn't actually tested that myself. Thanks for the feedback!
DeleteI just watched your demo video on the glass plate photography that you do and the pictures you posted. Amazing work!! I was really impressed! I'm into photography myself but you're taking it to the next level and then some.
DeleteAh cool, you watched my video, thank you for the kind words. I haven't been doing wet plate for a while but I'm hoping to get the spark back again soon. Maybe with the good weather. It's hard to juggle the hobbies along with the rest of life! :)
DeleteHello
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for all your layout and sharing your knowledge.
I just built a slightly modified version of your mixer (for 3 channels, and with a more compact design for an Eurorack Skiff), and it works fine!
That's awesome! Glad I could be of help. I love these little mixers too. They are easy to make and so useful to have.
DeleteHi, i just started with diy synths and build your THOMAS HENRY VCO-555. Now i want to make a line out for it so i can use it. Is the mixer output suitable voltage for line out? or do i have to build a different module for line out.
ReplyDeleteYou can use the mixer output for line out if you only open the volume potmeter a little but I would use some extra attenuation for a line out. Usually the line out is attenuated about ten times compared to normal synth signals.
Deletejust finished a 6 channel one of these. added 1/4 and 1/8 ins and outs. i didnt really think about how many more wires it was adding at the time of the original decision. now im just staring at the vco builds hoping i have it in me haha. which project is best done first by a person with mediocre skill level the 555 or the cem build? i have chips for both and the digital one but i already read your warning on that beast
ReplyDeleteonly two of my six channels work and ill just assume thats a short somewhere ill do some tracing but i used an lm358 for the clip circuit and it does not light regardless of the pot setting any ideas?
ReplyDeleteThe LM358 should work fine. I think 3340 VCO would be best for the next project. The 555 VCO is an advanced project. Be very accurate in copying the layout and it should work fine though.
Deleteturns out almost all of my chips are fakes. do not order from bridgold i have to return about 12 dif chip types and source replacements now. newbie mistake. have everything on the way from mouser and amazon returns already issued
Deletei swapped in a 3352 and all six channels worked as intended. its a little weird on how it mixs things but im hoping the 072s will clear up its quirks
DeleteYes fake chips was a big problem for me too when I started building. You have to be careful where you buy from. I'm glad you got the mixer working. very useful module to have.
Deletedoes your mixer have weird gain issues if you had multiple inputs? they are really smushing each other on mine depending how loud they are. im noticing that it will really shove it down and then blast it back loud again after the other signal is removed or reduced. only using 100k pots i dont have a lot of larger ones i stock but if it fixs the issue ill surely order some. is there a way to minimize this from happening? would audio pots maybe make it smoother? its not unbearable but after using dj mixers my entire adult life it doesnt feel quite right to me. the 072 sounds great but getting things staged properly may take some tweaks to my project because dealing with this while trying to just play music is a buzzkill. also take care with buying cheap pots ive run into several that have both loose cases and also loose windings inside and even had one spark up on me when they drug across the terminals.
ReplyDeleteMake sure your chips are not fakes from AliExpress or other cheap Chinese sources. That's usually the reason the mixer isn't working right. I have no problems with the ones I built.
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